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    Posted: 01 August 2008 at 11:13am
Jess, I know how you feel about the whole bottle baby thing... I couldn't do it past 6 months as she was always attached to me as she got older (feeding 2 hourly) and Keziah is a much happier baby now that she's formula fed..

Was weighed yesterday for her 9 month Plunket check and she weighs in at 9.25kg (between 50 & 75%ile) and is 72cm tall (well in to the 75%ile) so we're obviously doing something right aye??
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Hi Jess

I too bottle feed my baby. Oliver only has infacol and formula in his bottle though. He is on losec for the reflux and I give him that with a tiny bit of pamol each day - does the trick!

Oliver will pretty much take any bottle you give him but we did have huge problems with the feeding until we got his reflux under control (his is silent). Now he is a wee piggy He was last weighed at 3 months and was 6.88kgs and 65cms tall. He is in the 75th percentile for weight and 50th percentile for height.

I felt guilty about not being able to breastfeed for longer, but in the end what mattered most was a happy and healthy baby and a happy and healthy mummy (and daddy!).

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Thomas is on the Karicare thickened formula for babies who regurgitate - not cuz he pukes, but cuz he's a ravenous baby who wouldnt settle, and now we're doing fabulous! He uses Fisher Price adjustable flow teats on the same bottles or Avent - depending which is clean. We were using the tomee tippee ones, but the thick formula doesnt like to come out of them.
He's putting on lots of weight now he's getting the nourishment he needs - he's nearly 7kg!!!!! what a fatty :P
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Bottle fed baby here!

Sam was never able to latch, no matter what I or anybody could do, so he was put on the bottle at three weeks. No regrets, no guilt, totally happy with my decision.

He is now 14 months old, 12.5KG and 88CM tall, so he's doing GREAT!

On a side note, I was watching TV this morning and there was something on the news about breastfeeding, and when asked what are the options for women who can't or won't breastfeed, the only option given was GET HELP to breastfeed.   Which isn't fair IMO, because for some of us, help to breastfeed isn't an option. It would be nice for women to be able to access resources about formula, bottles and even expressing.

Anyway! Rant over.
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Andrew was a bottle baby. He went from losing weight being BF to gaining good amounts on formula. Don't know what was up with my milk it was there but not enough to get him growing.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Bottle baby here!

Jack was bottle fed from 3 days, formula from 3 weeks.

Basically I was told I would probably have trouble breastfeeding not because of no milk etc (I had a great milk supply) but because I have assymetrical breasts and so much pain in my right one that I have had to sleep propped up since I was 15. I tried, but there was no way I was dealing with the pain in my right breast at all!

Jack also wouldn't latch and spent his first 3 days screaming. His first proper feed was when he was 3 1/2 days old, EBM in an Avent bottle, and the look on his face was priceless. I have never looked back but always get disappointed when all the breastfeeding stuff is about 'get help and support'. Um sometimes no matter how much support you have it won't matter!

I have since had a breast reduction and reconstruction so will not be able to breastfeed next time either, which I'm happy with.

TBH I love the bottle! After stopping sterilising and boiling water stopped, I found it so easy! We can leave Jack and daycare, mums and dads or anywhere and he's fine. Such a relief. Plus its easy to work when I don't have to worry about breastfeeding.

The only thing that still irks me is that I've never failed at anything I've attempted, so that's the only reason I have issues with not being able to breastfeed.

Thanks for starting this Jess - nice to know there are people in the same position and we can have a thread where people will not give us 'helpful' advice about breastfeeding.
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Another bottle fed baby here.

Jorja gets EBM vis the bottle and has done since she was 2 weeks old (before that EBM/Formula via tube in nose).

We brought the tommee tippee breast like bottles but she just spat them out, we tried nipple shields, she spat them out too! LOL! Finally found a teat she does like, the tommee tippee anti-colic bottles with PUR standard teats. :)

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Im a EBM bottle feeder too

Jayden was taking 2-3 hours for a feed and would scream and scream and wouldn't latch etc he is now such a contented baby on the bottle and im a happier mummy! Ive been sick pretty much since he was born so ive found bottle feeding has been great

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Hi all, nice to have a non judgemental thread about bottle feeding.

I saw that thing on the news this morning and it angered me as does one of the new ads, where the woman isn't sure she wants to continue bfing but basically gets told she should. Well sorry but if you don't want to do it, why should you feel like you have to and then you won't enjoy feeding your baby and your baby will sense you aren't happy.

I have nothing against bfing, but it was never going to be for me. I have never wanted to bf and never did, my wee girl has been formula fed since she was born and she is a healthy happy little bubba, who has not been sick for one single day of her life.   

I get so sick of people judging me for it though, why should i feel guilty because I choose not to bf, she's my child and there is nothing wrong with formula feeding. I personally think there is too much emphasis on bfing, if its not for you why should you feel forced to do it.

We use nuk bottles and teats, but I also have some phil and teds latte bottles, which are great for travelling, and Gabs doesn't seem to care either way.

God there is so much more to being a mum than bfing anyway.

Sorry I get on a bit of a rant about this subject cos it really p*sses me off that people think they can pass judgement on others in this way.

Anyway rant over sorry.
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wow yay go you ladies.

i'm expressing into bottles at the moment my lil ryan won't laatch without a nipple shield. They're such a hassle and so damb ugly. my dh is loving being able to give ryan a bottle.

am thinking of going to formular as soon my milk will just dry up. i'm not sure where to start though.

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Hi everyone. Yay for a pro bottle-feeding thread! Both my babies were bottle-fed from really early on. It's a real pity there isn't more support & information about bottlefeeding from medical professionals.

My son was on the bottle from birth because he had low blood sugar. I tried bf as well but ended up with really messed up nipples due to poor support in the hospital . My milk didn't come in either so going on the bottle was an easy choice. I still felt guilty I couldn't feed him though. I stopped going to my antenatal coffee group after one of the women told me I didn't try hard enough to bf (without knowing anything about my situation). I had enough guilt myself without needing to feel judged by others. He thrived on formula (once we got his silent reflux under control) so I have no regrets about him being bottle fed.

I thought i'd give breastfeeding a go again with my newborn. I even went and saw the hospital lactation consultant beforehand and she wrote a bunch of things in my notes as well as giving me instructions etc before the birth. Unfortuanately this time around was even worse & she ended up being formula fed from about 1 week.

With my daughter the hospital midwives assured me my milk had come in and my daughter was feeding fine (despite her being permanently attached to me, and jaundiced). I was worried about her but they said she was fine & didn't need supplementary feeding and stupid me believed them.   I took my own formula and bottles into the hospital just in case & I think they would have said anything to discourage me from formula feeding. Turned out they were wrong ... I left hospital with a baby that lost more than 10% of her birthweight and was jaundiced to the point of nearly needing treatment. I'm still worried that she might have some damage resulting from it. I actually need to write a complaint about it but haven't got to it yet because she also has silent reflux.

She's now been checked out by a paediatrician & even he admitted what happened to us was a case of "breast is best" going too far.   

I use Dr Browns bottles - love them!

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My boy lost more than 10% in the first three days despite feeding like a demon, first 12 hours were difficult but then when we got some time alone without midwifes syringing colostrum into him he started to latch and fed well, he also ended up in the billibed with jaundice, my milk was late coming in cos of having a c/s but it could have happened anyway. I don't think he has any lasting damage from it. Its normal for breastfed babies to end up losing weight in the first week and lots of babies on formula or boob end up jaundiced, my neice and nephew both did and both were on formula from day one.

Sorry not trying to bash you or anything just trying to reassure you that you didn't do anything wrong and that it wouldn't have caused any long term damage.

Spencer has been bottle fed since 14 weeks, I stopped cos I had mastitis 5 times, I use to beat myself up about it but not anymore, he is happy and healthy and is doing well. We had some initial problems with the formula as it turns out he is allergic to diary but by 4 months he was on neocate and we haven't looked back.

I do intend to try and breastfeed again this time around and have looked into the specific problems I had and am hoping they can be avoided this time, but knowing babies we will have a whole host of different issue this time.

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Gremlins are my bottle babies and at 21 months still having two bottles a day. They were bottle fed EBM from 6 days old till 10 weeks with supplemental formula feeds from 3 weeks and then fully weaned onto formula at 10 weeks.

I struggled hugely with the decision to finally wean, even tho they were being bottle fed EBM I never really considered it 'bottle feeding' coz they were still getting breastmilk. But I had badly cracked nipples, ended up losing the top of one to a staph infection and neither of them latched well. Switching to formula was like admitting defeat which is not something I am good at, especially as I was able to express enough milk to feed them both so had no supply problems! But having two much happier babies made it all worth it, and I wasn't at all sad to give up the 3 hourly expressing.

One thing I do feel bad about is that they have both had no end of problems with their ears and I do wonder if they would have had the same problems if I'd been able to breastfeed them as bottle fed babies do have a higher incidence of middle ear problems. Still, it is what it is, nothing I can do about it now and it was the best decision for us at the time.

One good thing about bottle feeding tho is that I could escape from them! Maya never took a bottle and Chiara is looking to be the same way so I am tied to them, whereas anyone can feed the gremlins, as long as they get their bottles they don't care who gives it to them!
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PS. Jess, Mercedes would never take the Nuk bottles, she got too frustrated with them coz the teats were so slow.

Oh and re: the pneumoccocal vaccine, Chiara is absolutely having it, and both gremlins had it in Oz as it's on the schedule there. I've read a lot about it, and went to a media briefing on it, and IMO the risks are minimal if not non existent compared to the potential benefits. JMHO tho, each to their own, informed decision making etc.
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Originally posted by sarahbetha sarahbetha wrote:

wow yay go you ladies.


i'm expressing into bottles at the moment my lil ryan won't laatch without a nipple shield. They're such a hassle and so damb ugly. my dh is loving being able to give ryan a bottle.


am thinking of going to formular as soon my milk will just dry up. i'm not sure where to start though.



Thats like what happened to me, I had to start giving caden formula as my milk wasnt the best, it wasnt filling him up no matter how long he fed for and he wasnt gaining nearly enough weight.
He started fussing at the boob and ended up causing major nipple pain.
I got the tommee tippee bottles with the nipple like teat cause I was still breastfeeding as much a I could handle, but he just didnt want to know, cos the formula was filling his tummy and he was happy. He had never been 'full" before and was like and a much more settled bubba.

I didnt really know where to start or what to do either so thats why I tried doing both, but he didnt get better on the boob and my milk started to dry up and then I stopped all together.

Caden is on Heinz Nuture, he was on karicare but it made him constipated.
Is the Heinz Nuture Gold better? I thought about buying it, but wasnt sure if your ment to change their formula more than a few times.
Caden was constipated yesterday the poor wee thing, he was doing "sheep poo's" so I gave him boiled water with brown sugar and he loved it lol, and he did a nice big normal poo this morning, was so funny, he was doing his poo face and then once he had been he did this big sigh, like he was thinking "ahh thats better" lol

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hi there james is my bottle feed buba he had ebm in a bottle up till 6 weeks old and ff from six weeks till i got him of them at 1 year then bottle with coews milk up to 2 and a half i relly wish i had know about this site when james was a newbron i went thur shuch guilt with bottle feeding james and it wasnt anyone else upsetting me it was my own gulit now james has asmath and exerma and i do wonder if that is my fault as i put him on ff but then on the outher had i could keep expressing as i was so tried any who
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Josh is now almost 7 months 11kg was and at 6 months was 70cm.

He been fully formula feed since about 2 weeks after almost ripping off my nipple because he is a very strong sucker (i actually needed something to bite down on while BFing i was in so much pain) poor midwife almost had me locked up after i decided to give it another go after a course of antibiotics and a couple of days to heal but despite a perfect latch the pain was just to much i thought i would pass out. I have no issues with my decision and as i was a breastfeed baby i had more health problems than my formula fed sister so i in no way feel like im not giving josh the best start (as some book i read implied). Ok end of my path to formula story.

We now on SMA as josh also a hungry baby and wanted feed every 2 hours no matter what up until we started solids properly. We advent users here. Oh and josh has had all the jabs
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Cuppatea - thanks for the reassurance. I was the same as you and wanting things to go better this time around, so I saw the hospital lactation consultant before the birth & that was really helpful. Maybe that's something you could consider? Unfortunately she was away when my baby was born though, otherwise things might have gone better.    It's my OB, midwife and paediatrician that want me to make a complaint because not once did any of the midwives at the birthing unit contact a paed for advice or have her blood tested to see how bad she was. I just kept getting breastfeeding 'pep talks' & told she didn't need treatment. It wasn't till my midwife visited me at home that blood tests were arranged as my midwife was very concerned. My daughter was only just under the phototherapy treatment level. We managed to get her bilirubin levels down by formula feeding (as I had supply issues again) otherwise we would have had to be re-admitted to use the billibed. It's ironic that the only guilt I feel this time around is not starting formula feeding sooner.

Jezsika - i'm wondering about whether to get the new vaccination done too. I need to read up more about it, but may get it done at a separate time to the usual 6 week ones as my son's reflux really flared up after all of his, and my daughters reflux isn't well controlled yet, so maybe having them done separately might make it easier on her (according to my GP anyway).

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Ollie is fully formula fed - I've just posted my breastfeeding experience in the other thread so I won't rant emotionally here again!!

I struggle to not feel guilt, or sadness at our failed attempts at breastfeeding even though my head knows we tried our hardest and that Ollie is much better for us giving up. I feel like I want to make some sort of stand for bottle fed babies (and mums) simply because I think we should have choice (and the health professionals code for breastmilk supplementation says we should have informed choice). I don't feel our current choices are allowed to be informed.

On a positive, Ollie is a little guzzler and loves his food. We use Avent so I have no idea how good the other bottles are but I do know people who swear by Tommy Tippee. We also use the Nestle NAN Gold formula which seems to be fine for us. Actually I've heard that paediatricians feel that there is no real difference between formulas so it's really just what suits your baby best.

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Let me think about it, I've been asked to sticky the breastfeeding one too and I think it's a good idea but with all the Born in... stickies it might get a bit cluttered. I'll see what the rest of the team think.
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