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    Posted: 20 November 2008 at 8:50pm
Hi... I'm not sure where to start... Hubby & I have been together for over 7 yrs... we've been married for 4yrs and have been ttc for almost the whole time we've been together... frustrating, upsetting, devastating... I don't think there are enough words to describe how I feel!!! I know of one baby due every month from next month thru to May... I love my friends and my family, but, sometimes I just don't want to know... I was diagnosed a year ago with PCOS when I changed GP. She told me that a gynae I had seen 4 yrs earlier had advised my previous GP about it and she couldn't understand why nothing had been done about it... especially with my previous GP knowing we wanted kids! I was also diagnosed with type 2 diabetes at the same time, due to the PCOS and weight gain (also due to the PCOS). I've met with fertility specialists but they want me to lose 50kgs first... I don't look my weight, but the scales say its so. I feel sometimes like I'm in a vicious circle... the only help I've been given by my doc is when she prescribes provera when I go too long without a period. The only other meds I'm on is Metformin for my diabetes... my diabetes has levelled out (and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a problem soon), its the PCOS which is the biggest problem... I don't know what to do next.... anyone have any suggestions??? PLEASE let me know if you do... Thanx
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Sending you many hugs!

DH & I have been TTC over 4 years now too, and thankfully not too many of my friends are pg - but enough to feel left out.
I also have PCOS, and have a lot of weight to lose - I need to lose 35kg to get IVF and it scares me... it's so much and I don't know how I'm going to do it. I feel quite alone in this process.

That absolutely sucks that your GP was so negligent about your PCOS dx... although in my experience many have very limited knowledge on it, maybe your old GP wasn't up on it????

Are you in Auckland? If so I would be keen to get in touch - maybe we could support each other losing weight. I really need to meet someone else in my situation to work together in this.
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I'm so glad to see your post. Infact the tears are springing to my eyes! My husband and I have been trying 4 years as well. I was devastated when my sister got pregnant just a month after she got married (devasted for me, happy for her of course - I had a cry in private, but we had already been trying for 3 years by then). Then she had a beautiful girl, and 3 months later she was pregnant again! I went overseas for a year and when I came back, my best friend had had a baby. So now I'm the last one standing!
I get so sick of people asking when am I going to have a baby, that I better hurry up before I run out of time. Every week it seems I bump into someone who asks, or if I meet someone new, they ask if I have any children. Just yesterday going through the checkout at the supermarket, the checkout operator asked what i was doing for the weekend, when I said no plans, she then asked if I had any kids! I know she was just trying to be friendly, but when I said No, then we sort of lapsed into an uncomfortable silence!
I too have to lose weight, I was devastated when told how much, as I have never been very skinny, even during my most active years in college, when I was in all the sports teams, I was never the weight then, that I've been told to get down to now! But I am trying, and have formed a weight loss group with friends and family, although haven't told them why, and have mananged to lose 5kg so far.
I switched my GP in my early 20's when my original GP, just kept saying that my periods would become normal oneday. My new GP sent me for a scan straight away and I was diagnosed then, and had a cyst removed.
I was put on Metformin - actually I asked my GP to put me on it, and I tried it for a year, it made me bloated, nauseaus and sick, but I stuck with it, to no avail. I took myself off it, and have decided to try and lose weight first, then try it again.
The facial hair is what gets to me these days, in the past I have spent over $5,000 in the course of year having laser treatment, which worked on that area, but now its growing in other areas, and I can't afford to spend thousands again.
But lets support each other if we can, I know 2 people who have PCOS, and have concieved, one has just fallen pregnant again - with medication of course - but she lost alot of weight first. I clling to this hope, that I will too, as she is the same age as me - 33. I'm in Welington by the way.
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Coraliee <hugs>!!

I'm so sorry that everyone around you is also getting pg!

I was also on Metformin, and took myself off it due to the awful side effects, and I have the terrible facial hair as well. I did do laser treatment for a while but it didn't help a lot. It lessened the hair but didn't get rid of it - and it was soooo expensive.

BTW Well Done for losing 5kgs!!
I am starting back on my walking buzz tomorrow, and going to go to the gym as well!
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Hi to both of you!!! Thanx for replying... I've found a way to lose weight if you're willing to eat some really boring food for a while! I tried it earlier this year and lost 5% of my original body weight... then I had some major dramas go down... and lost the plot where my diet was concerned. I'm looking at starting back on the diet again in the new year, the ol' 'New Years Resolution' as such. I'm thinking I'll diet for a week then go back to normal for a week, just to have a little variety! Anyway, I lost the weight using Optifast... for a whole week you take either a shake, a soup or a bar for breakfast lunch and dinner, the only 'free foods' you can have are green veges ( so if you like salad you're fine), pumpkin, swede, peppers, basically anything that's not a carbohydrate, oh and 2litres of water a day... I lost 4 kilos in my first week. I'm upset that I never stuck to the diet, I realise now that I woulda been so much closer to my dream if I had only carried on with it! over 3 weeks I lost 8kgs!!! I'm definitely going back to the diet though... Oh do any of you watch "From here to maternity"? I watched last weeks programme and one of the mothers on the show had endometriosis... she had visited a chinese herbalist for assistance... sounded very interesting!   Oh Jen I'm in Hamilton, but, we'll all hav to keep in touch and support each other through this... we have to stay positive (as hard as it is when friends and family (or even complete strangers) are telling ya their good news and growing their baby bumps!!!) Best of luck to both of you!!! and if I find any new info you'll be among the first to know, especially if I hear of some sort of miracle breakthrough!!! Luv & best of luck!!! bex
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Hey there,

First off i am soooo sorry for you, i too have PCOS. Im VERY overweight (sorry too shy to say on here) and i also lost my hair because of it (its grown back now though, yay!)

I was on Metformin, Spirotone and a special pill aswell which i cant memba da name of. None of which seemed to be making much difference, so i stopped taking metformin and spirotone and continued taking my pill.

About 3 months later my hair started growing back and somehow i ended up pregnant even though i was on the pill! My lil miss was definatly not planned however im very happy now.

Even though i am overwight and have a high BMI my pregnancy has been completely fine, no complications or problems what so ever and she is happy and healthy bouncing away in there!

So i just wanted to say to you ladies hang in there, im sure if i can get pregnant and have a healthy pregnancy you will too!

Im going to have a massive mission after Lily is born losing weight but it will be worth it...lol and im sure ill feel happier weighing 60kg less

GL to you and all my best wishes go to you!!


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Thanks supazo - is great to hear good news, and gives us hope! What was Spirotone? Haven't heard of that one before!
Hugs to you too Jencal! thanks for that! I've never actually told anyone what I've been feeling (oh no, here come the tears springing to my eyes!), that post I wrote, was the first time, I ever expressed anything to do with me and PCOS. Although my family and friends know I have it - they don't understand. And I've been afraid that if I think about it too much, I might spiral into some sort of depression I might not get out of. SO, I always just push thoughts to the back of my mind, never talk about it, brush my mothers comments off - "you better go thr Dr" "Your running out of time!" etc. And just get on with my life, do the things I want to do and enjoy. But I have prepared for the worst - just incase, so I don't end up too devastated, and planned a future without children.
That optifast sounds interesting bexmp! Where can you purchase that from? I'm afraid I might starve! Well goodlluck girls on the weight loss - lets check in now and again to post our progress!
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Hi to you all! that's very exciting news supazo! congrats! the optifast you can buy from any pharmacy or from the warehouse pharmacy... its approx $55 for 10 sachets... you start off starving but I think its just a mind thing!!! lol. I was doing really well until a family friend and an aunt died in the same week and the funerals took us out of town... you definitely have to plan everything on the diet... and I learnt that the hard way! I'm definitely going back to it in the new year!
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Goodluck bexmp - yes I think its best to wait until the jolly season is over with! Can't serve lettuce and carrot sticks for Christmas dinner! lol. Lol when I read ..."you start off starving" haha! Yes I think it is a mind thing! Have to somehow tell my mind, that it doesn't want chocolate - thats my big down fall. So I won't buy any, or have any in the house. Then I'll visit someone, and they'll have chocolate biscuits - well its all down hill after the first nibble. I've been reading up about PCOS, and because its caused or associated with elevated blood sugar levels, the best thing is to follow a low glycemic diet - and of course all foods low glycemic, are the boring ones. But it says that it is the blood sugar levels that cause the symptoms - facial hair etc. Low glycemic is not just foods with sweet sugars in - but foods like apples and bread - carbs are high glycemic. So I did a little comparison, as its confusing. And out of a peice of bread, a potato, a peice of pumpkin, or rice - instant noodles are the lowest glycemic out of them all! But probably high in salt or something else! Oh its all too confusing! Anyway hope you will have a nice weekend! It looks like its going to be a hot one for Wellington!......for a change!
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I just wanted to say Im so sorry all of you are having such a hard time.
My best friends story is very similar your Supazo, and like her story IU hope hers gives u a ray of hope.

She has PCOS and was told she would never get preg naturally. She was on metformin and 2 other meds (sorry cant remember what). She was also losing her hair too and over wight with high bmi.
She decided to just stop all the meds cos she was sick of them and what they were doing to her,...she then got preg naturally. That was 5 years ago. In Oct she gave birth to her third baby girl
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Oh thats good news Kellz! Happy for your friend, I wonder what the 2 other meds were!? Could you ask her? They might have kicked started something. I would be interested to know, so next time I go to my Dr, I can just tell her what I want to do! Other wise you can waste time, being referred here and there and everywhere! Thanks!
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Went to visit my sister a couple of days ago, and her friend was there ....... and she was pregnant! BUT she said she has PCOS, and had been trying for 13 years to get pregnant! And then surprise, she did, this pregnancy is number 2! Another surprise for her - shes 39! So theres hope yet!
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Hi guys! I'm am so sorry for what you guys are going through. Life can be so cruel. I get the whole friend thing as well. The moment we started ttc everyone else fell pregnant. When we found out we would never get pregnant without ICSI IVF, we were devastated. A week after telling family my brother phoned to say him and his partner were having a baby. I turned to my best friend for support and only days after a failed first ivf treatment she told me she was pregnant AND WORSE, so was two of her sisters that I am also close to. Well we got through that and got engaged and decided, hey lets throw a big party to celebrate us, because we deserve it, I found out during the party that YES another friend was pregnant. I totally broke down!!. Another friend managed to pick me up and make me feel a bit better. I remember saying I couldn't take any more news like that, but what do you know, my aunty decided to use our engagement party to announce her pregnancy.
Well one thing I do know for sure ladies, is that when we get pregnant, it will be so much more than just another pregnancy (if you know what I mean), it will be a lot more special and magical.
P.S. I had to loose 20kg before doing ivf. I have sureslim books and plans. I would be happy to copy and send them out to any of you who would like them. They are the quick loss program - totally healthy - and I lost an average of 4kg per week for the first couple of months.
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I have just been referred to a specialist and the doctor told me that he is 'obsessed' with PCOS. I am what I would say chubby with bmi of 31..but have no symptoms. What sort of symptoms do people have..and is bmi 31 the sort of 'overweight' that is likely to be associated with PCOS. I don't really want to be stuck in a box and not have other things investigated because the doctor sees an overweight chick ya know!!
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Hi all... Sori I've been so slack in replying! I've been run off my feet lately... today I was walking around town (xmas shopping, spending all my money on everyone else!) and everywhere I looked were pregnant women or newborn babies or families with their toddlers.... I started getting a lil down then thought 'HEY!!! cut it out!!!! You'll get there one day!!!) and like Kazper said... when I do it won't just be another pregnancy... not only will it be a miracle to me, but it will be so so special to all my family and friends that are watching and trying to support me through all this mess, no, they don't understand, but, they are doing their best! So we have to all try our best to not get too down this xmas... and keep our hopes and dreams alive and try again in the new year!!! Best of luck ladies!!! I hope the new year brings us everything we've ever wanted and our dreams of being a mummy comes true!!! Luv Bex
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Yes, like Kazper - I've been told of 3 more pregnant people this week alone. Its hard to sound excited anymore. I seem to just say "oh really? thats nice". But it can wear you down.
To answer your question Kazper - symptoms include - weight gain, and harder than usual to lose weight. Heavy periods, few periods - or no periods! Cysts on the ovaries. Facial hair - and hair wear men usual get it, like on the chest, naval etc, due to higher than normal testosterone levels. And mostly a glucose intolerance - which in the future, could and probably will lead to type 2 diabetes, unless you control and watch sugar intake now! And high cholesterol = heart attack oneday!
Fortunately all people are different, and everyones symptoms are different, lucky in your case you dont' seem to have any of the embarassing symptoms!But it may pay to just have a cholesterol and blood sugar test from time to time - can be done at most pharmacies for about $5. Let us know what the specialist says! Sounds like you have a good one! I'm trying to lose some more weight, and then will try next year to go to all lengths, so at least I know I tried. In the mean time, we can all look forward to the new year, and all the exciting prospects it may bring us! Goodluck everyone for the new year!
P.S bexmp - I agree, its annoying when people are complaining of morning sickness and how awful they feel. It would be the happiest day in my life to wake up one morning and vomit!
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The new girl at work was moaning about having to go home and look after her baby after work. And then came THE QUESTION "Have you got any kids?" "No" I replied. "Your'e so lucky" she said....................
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Hey Ladies.... how did all your celebrations go??? I'm back to work on Monday, not really looking forward to it, hasn't been much of a holiday for me, spent most of xmas & new years feeling miserable!!! was not feeling 100%, and on xmas day dad got a lil tiddly and asked when I'm gonna start having kids!!! I was lyk "Hav u been listening to me the last few years!!!" man that pee'd me off soooo much! oh and just b4 xmas my mum turned to me and said "oh I'd luv a nu grandchild b4 next xmas" I just said "good on ya!!!"... Even though they were lyk that I did enjoy hanging out with all my cousins children, they're lots of fun and aren't in any hurry for 'aunty & uncle' to have any kids... that would mean less tym for them! Going bak to work means sitting in the same room as two others that are pregs... one due in April and the other in June... yay for me! the one due in April is pretty supportive of me tho and kinda understands what I'm going thru, which is good, her and I have ended up good mates... Oh and Coraliee you're right about the diabetes, I have type 2 diabetes... I was diagnosed bout a year ago, have it under control now, but if I had been told by my original gp about the pcos I could have possibly prevented the diabetes... Man that makes me angry!!! Well ladies... lets make this year a good one an see what we can do where makin our own babies are concerned! I hope the holidays treated you well and you all went easy on yourselves!!! Good Luck!!!
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Hi everyone,

I haven't yet been diagnosed with PCOS, but I'm convinced I have it. I've always had an irregular AF – I sometimes go months without one, and I also have several coarse, black hairs which continue to sprout up on my chin and upper lip. Apart from that I have no other symptoms, but my mother is convinced my sister has it and my grandmother has type 2 diabetes.

You're probably all wondering why my sister and I don't just go to the doctor and find out once and for all – well, we have been. My sister lives in a small rural town and the doctor there keeps telling her she doesn't have it. She has very heavy, painful periods sometimes occurring every 2 weeks, plus she gets fuzzy, facial hair. She had a cyst removed from her ovaries a few years ago but yet her doctor has never run any scans or tests to check for PCOS.

As for me, I went to my doctor 6 months ago in Auckland to express my concerns. They pretty much brushed me off and told me to come back again in a few months if there was still no sign of AF. I thought, bugger that, so I decided to go straight to a gyno. One scan, one internal, and one blood test later, I had to wait for AF before I could get a 2nd blood test. A bit hard to do when it's basically non existent!

When it finally came, it was a Saturday and I was out of town. Monday lunchtime I rushed in to get a blood test, but AF had stopped – it only lasted 2 days. So I may have to do it all over again. Anyways, last week I booked myself in to see the gyno to get the results and get this – there's a 5 week waiting list! $600 later, too.

Just put me on Clomid already!

A quick question, how many of you gals with PCOS have had high grade lesions on your ovaries? That's another thing I've had.

PS. Sorry for the rant!
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Hi, Wow Treen, tell your sister to change GP's asap! I too went to the same GP all through my teens, and he kept saying the same thing, your period will eventually become regular ( I was only having one twice a year!), and it never did. After my nursing training I changed GP's and on my first visit she diagnosed me in the first 5 mins and sent me for a scan, then referred me to a Gynacologist. And I had a cyst on my ovary that I had surgically removed.
That was about 7 or 8 years ago, and I'm ashamed to say.... I'm too scared to go for another scan. I don't want to go through all that again. Even though I've been back to the GP for Metformin, and she suggested to have another scan of the ovaries - but I put her off, saying I'll try the Metformin first. Which didn't work after a year, so took myself off it until I can lose some weight,
Still trying to lose some more weight before I head back to my GP, and this time will be brave enough to go for the scan, no point taking all the meds and it won't work cos' have giant cysts - oh god, I hope not!
But it certainly sounds like your sister definately has PCOS! I wonder if I have high grade lesions - not heard about those before - any symptoms?
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